Legislature(2011 - 2012)HOUSE FINANCE 519

02/28/2012 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 304 ALASKA FIRE STANDARDS COUNCIL TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ HB 254 ALASKA NATIVE LANGUAGE COUNCIL TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 28, 2012                                                                                          
                         1:36 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:36:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze called the  House Finance Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 1:36 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bill Stoltze, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Bill Thomas Jr., Co-Chair                                                                                        
Representative Anna Fairclough, Vice-Chair                                                                                      
Representative Mia Costello                                                                                                     
Representative Mike Doogan                                                                                                      
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative Les Gara                                                                                                         
Representative David Guttenberg                                                                                                 
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Mark Neuman                                                                                                      
Representative Tammie Wilson                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Craig    Johnson;   Erin    Shine,   Staff,                                                                    
Representative  Craig  Johnson;  Representative  Alan  Dick;                                                                    
Genevieve Cook, teacher aid;  Selina Eberson, Tlingit Elder,                                                                    
Harbor  View  Elementary;  Alice  Haldane,  Hoonah,  Alaska;                                                                    
Beverly Faye  Hugo, Cultural  Teacher, Barrow  Alaska; Marsh                                                                    
Hotch, Tlingit  speaker; Roby Littlefield,  Tlingit teacher,                                                                    
Sitka School  District; Chrisann Justice,  Inupiaq Education                                                                    
Department,  North  Slope  School  District;  Edward  Hotch,                                                                    
parent;  Paul  Marks,  Goldbelt Corporation,  Juneau;  Nancy                                                                    
Douglas,  Sitka; Mark  Hans Chester,  Second Grade  teacher,                                                                    
JSD Sealaska Heritage; Representative Cathy Munoz                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Tom Westcott,  President, Alaska  Professional Firefighters;                                                                    
Gorden Descuther, Executive  Director, Alaska Fire Standards                                                                    
Council; Jeff Tucker, Alaska  State Fire Chiefs Association;                                                                    
Annette  Evans   Smith,  President  &  CEO,   Alaska  Native                                                                    
Heritage  Center;  Denise  Morris, President,  First  Alaska                                                                    
Institute;    Patrick    Anderson,    Executive    Director,                                                                    
Chugachmiut;  Byron  Charles,   Ketchikan;  Jerry  Ahwinona,                                                                    
Nome, Alaska, District Chairman Republican Party                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 254    ALASKA NATIVE LANGUAGE COUNCIL                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          HB 254 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HB 304    ALASKA FIRE STANDARDS COUNCIL                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          HB 304 was REPORTED out of committee with a "do                                                                       
          pass"    recommendation   and    with   previously                                                                    
          published fiscal note: FN1 (DPS).                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL 304                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          "An Act relating to the membership of the Alaska                                                                      
          Fire Standards Council."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:37:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  disclosed that there may  be some possible                                                                    
changes to  HB 254,  therefore it  would probably  not leave                                                                    
the committee today.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:38:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   CRAIG  JOHNSON,   commented  that   he  had                                                                    
introduced  the  bill at  the  request  of fire  departments                                                                    
throughout the state.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ERIN SHINE,  STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE CRAIG  JOHNSON, explained                                                                    
that the  bill makes reasonable  changes to the  Alaska Fire                                                                    
Standards Council.  The first change designates  an existing                                                                    
seat  to a  member of  the Alaska  Professional Firefighters                                                                    
Association. The  second change adds  a seat for  the Alaska                                                                    
Fire  Chiefs Association,  and the  third, reclassifies  the                                                                    
existing seat  from a Firefighter Administrative  Officer to                                                                    
a member  of the Alaska State  Firefighters Association. The                                                                    
mission  of   the  Alaska  Fire  Standards   Council  is  to                                                                    
establish professional standards  for fire service personnel                                                                    
and  curriculum requirements  for the  certification of  the                                                                    
training program.  Under HB 304,  the governor  appoints one                                                                    
member from  each of  the three  associations to  the Alaska                                                                    
Fire  Standards  Council  from  a  list  of  a  least  three                                                                    
nominees  submitted by  each association.  The intent  of HB
304   is  to   ensure  that   all  three   associations  are                                                                    
represented on  the Alaska Fire  Standards Council  and that                                                                    
the  members can  speak with  the full  confidence of  their                                                                    
respective associations in council meetings.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Doogan  questioned  what  happens  when  all                                                                    
twelve members show up and want to vote.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Shine said  that currently the board  consists of eleven                                                                    
members, but  will become  a twelve  member board  under the                                                                    
bill.  In  the event  that  all  twelve voting  members  are                                                                    
there, the Chair will abstain from voting.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:41:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM  WESTCOTT, PRESIDENT,  ALASKA PROFESSIONAL  FIREFIGHTERS                                                                    
(via teleconference),  voiced his  support for the  bill. He                                                                    
disclosed that the Standards Council  gave their support for                                                                    
this  legislation. The  main goal  is for  it to  be another                                                                    
tool to assist the Standards Council in doing their job.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg questioned Mr.  Wescott on why the                                                                    
legislation was needed, what was  the problem and how can it                                                                    
be fixed. Mr.  Westcott answered that the  bill designates a                                                                    
seat for the Alaska  Professional Firefighters on the Alaska                                                                    
Fire Standards  Council and insures  there will always  be a                                                                    
representative on the board. The  intent is for the position                                                                    
to be a valuable addition.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
GORDEN DESCUTHER, EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR, ALASKA FIRE STANDARDS                                                                    
COUNCIL (via  teleconference), testified  in support  of the                                                                    
bill.  The agreement  is that  both positions  would augment                                                                    
the council's ability to perform its mission.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:45:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFF  TUCKER,  ALASKA  STATE FIRE  CHIEFS  ASSOCIATION  (via                                                                    
teleconference),  supported the  bill. The  addition of  the                                                                    
positions   puts   the   three  major   state   firefighting                                                                    
associations on the standards council.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze CLOSED  public testimony.  He referred  to                                                                    
the fiscal note. He believed  the funds were covering travel                                                                    
expenses for the additional person.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze indicated he had  worked to get the funding                                                                    
for the  bill. He  expressed that it  was important  to have                                                                    
standards  for  training,  whether for  volunteers  or  paid                                                                    
positions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair  Fairclough  MOVED  to   report  HB  304  out  of                                                                    
committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal note. There  being, NO OBJECTION, it was                                                                    
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HB  304 was  REPORTED  out  of committee  with  a "do  pass"                                                                    
recommendation  and with  previously published  fiscal note:                                                                    
FN1 (DPS).                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:48:35 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:49:53 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL 254                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act   establishing  the  Alaska   Native  Language                                                                    
     Preservation and  Advisory Council and relating  to the                                                                    
     preservation,   restoration,   and  revitalization   of                                                                    
     Alaska Native languages."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:50:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ALAN DICK,  spoke of the need for  HB 254. He                                                                    
signified that he  and his wife Helen  had administered, for                                                                    
three  years, an  endangered language  grant for  the Alaska                                                                    
Native Heritage  Center. The  program consisted  of creating                                                                    
language lessons, video language  lessons, and an Athabaskan                                                                    
lexicon.  For  decades  the native  people  of  Alaska  have                                                                    
indicated  what  is needed  to  provide  for the  healthiest                                                                    
community  and  the  people have  emphasized  that  learning                                                                    
their  language   is  a  fundamental  foundation   for  this                                                                    
improvement.  He  informed  that built  within  each  native                                                                    
language are  connections that  cannot be  easily translated                                                                    
or understood in  English. He contended that  the reason for                                                                    
teaching the native  language outside of the home  is to get                                                                    
better at it  in the same way that English  is taught in the                                                                    
schools.  He  reiterated  the past  history  of  the  native                                                                    
people of  Alaska when  they were  forbidden to  speak their                                                                    
language. He opined  that validation from the  state and the                                                                    
school system  is needed in preserving  native languages. He                                                                    
spoke   of   the   variety    of   languages   and   groups.                                                                    
Representative  Dick pointed  out  the  five main  different                                                                    
cultural areas  in Alaska.  The bill asks  for a  council to                                                                    
discuss the modern day issues  that have to do with language                                                                    
restoration. Ten  years from now  the conversation  will not                                                                    
be possible  because the native speaking  elders are passing                                                                    
away. He complimented the documentation  of the languages by                                                                    
the University  of Alaska Fairbanks by  brilliant linguists,                                                                    
but the bill  concerns itself more with  the restoration and                                                                    
revitalization   of  the   languages.  Representative   Dick                                                                    
favored the three year sunset.  He also spoke of the council                                                                    
being able to take advantage  of new technology and software                                                                    
to revitalize languages.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:57:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Dick expressed  his  hope  that the  council                                                                    
will  provide wisdom  and  a concrete  product  to guide  in                                                                    
later  decision making  and that  the legislative  body will                                                                    
acknowledge the importance of the bill.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thomas opined  that, although  he is  enthusiastic                                                                    
about the  concept, he did  not believe anything  was gained                                                                    
leaving  it with  the Department  of Education.  He remarked                                                                    
that  it  could  really  work  with  a  native  organization                                                                    
already providing  the information. He believed  the program                                                                    
would  be  bound for  failure  if  it  is in  Department  of                                                                    
Education. He continued  that under the bill,  the people in                                                                    
charge  would not  be Alaska  Native speakers.  He suggested                                                                    
the  program  be  turned  over  to  First  Alaskans  with  a                                                                    
possible tax credit to help  fund it. His concern is putting                                                                    
on another  state employee who  would not get  anywhere with                                                                    
the  program.  He suggested  that  possibly  an oil  company                                                                    
could help fund the project.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Dick indicated that  he welcomed any friendly                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas  signified that the  right people  in charge                                                                    
could do a better job.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:00:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  agreed with many of  the comments. He                                                                    
directed  a question  to Co-Chair  Thomas and  asked if  his                                                                    
idea was  for the bill  to go forward as  it is, but  with a                                                                    
different funding source.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas  indicated that changes  could be  made with                                                                    
the sponsor. He  argued that the goal is  to preserve Alaska                                                                    
Native languages  and put  it into the  hands of  people who                                                                    
already know how to speak them.  First Alaskans is set up to                                                                    
be an educational arm of the Alaska Native people.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon disclosed  his need  to get  a better                                                                    
understanding  of  the  bill.   He  believed  both  Co-Chair                                                                    
Thomas's  idea  and the  bill  had  merit. Co-Chair  Stoltze                                                                    
agreed on the fiscal concerns and how it is funded.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:03:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara expressed  that he  liked the  concept,                                                                    
but in  relation to  the fiscal note,  he was  worried about                                                                    
many good  people doing a lot  of work that ends  up getting                                                                    
disregarded. The way  the bill is written,  people will work                                                                    
on the recommendations,  and then nothing has  to happen. It                                                                    
is almost  like a  task force. He  commented that  it should                                                                    
not  take   experts  long  to   come  up  with   a  language                                                                    
preservation policy. He suggested  that after the program is                                                                    
complete, a "Shall"  should be added to implement  a plan or                                                                    
a program.  He pointed  out the bill  now lacks  the "Shall"                                                                    
portion which is necessary to make sure something happens.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Represent Dick appreciated Representative Gara's insight.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule spoke  that he  would like  to revisit                                                                    
the issue of  a person from the Bush  Caucus being appointed                                                                    
to the council. As a legislator  he has tried to be a bridge                                                                    
from rural to  urban Alaska. He suggested  that someone from                                                                    
the legislature who has an  interest in the issue or someone                                                                    
who  questions the  issue should  be involved.  He signified                                                                    
the need  for a broader base  of support of people  who have                                                                    
an  interest  or   could  be  engaged  to   give  a  broader                                                                    
perspective.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze agreed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair Fairclough  stated that she  liked Representative                                                                    
Joule's comments and agreed with  the importance of reaching                                                                    
out to those  in the legislature who may  not be supportive.                                                                    
If those  individuals could  be reached,  it could  create a                                                                    
momentum  for  the  project. She  declared  that  passionate                                                                    
people  involved  in an  issue  can  make a  difference.  If                                                                    
Representative Dick wants the  state do something, champions                                                                    
will  be needed  from  both legislative  bodies  to make  it                                                                    
happen.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:09:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNETTE  EVANS   SMITH,  PRESIDENT  &  CEO,   ALASKA  NATIVE                                                                    
HERITAGE CENTER  (via teleconference),  spoke in  her native                                                                    
language. She  communicated that many  believe the DNA  of a                                                                    
culture lives within  the languages. The loss  of a language                                                                    
brings  about  the  loss  of  vast  amounts  of  traditional                                                                    
knowledge.  The  indigenous  languages of  Alaska  make  the                                                                    
state unique and offer a  glimpse into thousands of years of                                                                    
history. It  is critical to  take proactive measures  now to                                                                    
strengthen languages while language  speakers in each of the                                                                    
Alaskan cultural  groups still  exist. Evidence  exists that                                                                    
indigenous  children  with  strong linguistic  and  cultural                                                                    
background  are  more   academically  successful.  Languages                                                                    
provide  a  strong cultural  identity  and  strong sense  of                                                                    
self.  The Alaska  Native  Heritage  Center's award  winning                                                                    
programs have  seen successes many times.  Language learning                                                                    
produces a  stronger cultural identity and  self-esteem. She                                                                    
emphasized  that  because  government   has  played  such  a                                                                    
powerful  role in  the decline  of native  languages, it  is                                                                    
reasonable  to expect  they  can play  a  role in  restoring                                                                    
those  languages.   She  thanked  Representative   Dick  and                                                                    
Representative Munoz for sponsoring the bill.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair  Fairclough noted  that in  reviewing the  Alaska                                                                    
Native  Heritage Center's  mission,  it  has been  suggested                                                                    
that the  First Alaskans  might be a  better place  for this                                                                    
conversation. Ms. Smith  agreed with the intent  of the bill                                                                    
and agreed support for the  panel would live well within the                                                                    
Alaskan Native Heritage Center and their mission.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:14:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DENISE  MORRIS,  PRESIDENT,   FIRST  ALASKA  INSTITUTE  (via                                                                    
teleconference), supported  the bill. She extended  a thank-                                                                    
you  to the  sponsors  and co-sponsors  of  the bill.  First                                                                    
Alaskans   Institute   is   state-wide   non-profit   Native                                                                    
organization  for  advancing   and  shaping  decisions  that                                                                    
affect  their  lives.   Revitalization  of  native  language                                                                    
learning  is important  for the  restoration for  the health                                                                    
and well-being of communities of  Alaska. All languages have                                                                    
a  home and  Alaska is  the home  of many  indigenous native                                                                    
languages. The  language exists nowhere  else in  the world.                                                                    
She expressed  that there  had been  some discussion  on the                                                                    
make-up of  the panel  and the  importance of  having Alaska                                                                    
native speakers  on it. She  also emphasized that  there are                                                                    
entire generations of Alaskans who  do not know their native                                                                    
language,  but  are  critically  involved  in  teaching  and                                                                    
advancing Alaska Native language revitalization.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:19:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
PATRICK  ANDERSON,  EXECUTIVE   DIRECTOR,  CHUGACHMIUT  (via                                                                    
teleconference), supported  the bill. He explained  that his                                                                    
consortium  consisted of  seven tribes  from Prince  William                                                                    
Sound and the lower Cook Inlet  regions. He believed it is a                                                                    
race against  time to preserve  and restore his  areas major                                                                    
language, Sugcestun.  The native village of  Eyak lost their                                                                    
race to  preserve and restore  their language when  its last                                                                    
native  speaker passed  away  in 2008.  In  2008 there  were                                                                    
forty eight  fluent Sugcestun speakers in  the region, today                                                                    
there  are  only  thirty  five.  Some  adults  can  use  the                                                                    
language, but are  not fluent. He spoke of  the young people                                                                    
in  the 1950s  sent  to mission  schools  and literally  had                                                                    
their language  beaten out of them.  As a result he  did not                                                                    
live  with  native parents  who  were  able to  speak  their                                                                    
native languages.  He stressed  that there  is a  very short                                                                    
time  to  restore the  language.  He  reported that  in  his                                                                    
region there  are three  fluent speaking  teachers certified                                                                    
by the  state of Alaska.  The school districts of  Alaska do                                                                    
not see the  importance of teaching native  languages in the                                                                    
school; therefore the teachers  are only working outside the                                                                    
schools. He agreed with the  question of resources and found                                                                    
that  funding   has  always   been  tight.   He  appreciated                                                                    
Representative  Dick's  efforts   to  support  the  language                                                                    
council. There  needs to  be advocates for  the bill  in the                                                                    
legislature and the administration.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:25:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BYRON  CHARLES, KETCHIKAN  (via teleconference),  introduced                                                                    
himself  in  the Tlingit  language.  He  commented that  the                                                                    
dialects  of the  Tlingit  people  are different  throughout                                                                    
Southeast  Alaska.  He spoke  of  the  importance for  young                                                                    
people being  able to  speak and  understand it.  The elders                                                                    
are often sad  because they know the young try,  but find it                                                                    
difficult.  It is  much  easier  to teach  a  language at  a                                                                    
younger age. He supported the  bill and agreed that the best                                                                    
resources are the elderly people still alive today.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze   acknowledged  Co-Sponsor  Representative                                                                    
Cathy Munoz in the room.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:29:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GENEVIEVE COOK,  TEACHER AID, spoke  in her  native language                                                                    
and testified in support of the bill.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SELINA  EBERSON,  TLINGIT  ELDER,  HARBOR  VIEW  ELEMENTARY,                                                                    
voiced her  support of  the bill.  She noted  that she  is a                                                                    
fluent speaker of  her Tlingit language. When  she was young                                                                    
she was  forbidden speak, dance  or sing. She  asserted that                                                                    
the native  people have  been hurt and  all they  are asking                                                                    
for is  some help  from the state  to carry  language, dance                                                                    
and song  back so children can  know who they are.  The bill                                                                    
means very  much to  her. The  Alaska Native  Sisterhood and                                                                    
Brotherhood  donated  when  they  could  to  help  with  the                                                                    
preservation and  educating the children. She  wanted to see                                                                    
the native languages alive 100 years from today.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:33:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALICE  HALDANE,  HOONAH,  ALASKA, supported  the  bill.  She                                                                    
pointed  out that  she works  in Glacier  Bay as  a cultural                                                                    
intern  and is  often asked  why the  native languages  were                                                                    
taken away  from them. She  stated she  wants to see  it all                                                                    
come back so the people can have their pride back.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BEVERLY   FAYE  HUGO,   CULTURAL  TEACHER,   BARROW  ALASKA,                                                                    
encouraged support  for the  bill. She  spoke in  her native                                                                    
language. She indicated  that her group had  been invited by                                                                    
the Tlingit  and Haida to  provide tools to help  them build                                                                    
up their language  program. She felt fortunate  to have been                                                                    
grounded  in her  language by  the time  she left  home. She                                                                    
expressed that  it has  been hard  to maintain  her cultural                                                                    
identity.  She   informed  that   some  professors   at  the                                                                    
university  were clueless  about her  cultural heritage  and                                                                    
language  and declared  that no  one  has the  right to  ask                                                                    
others  to lose  their culture  and language.  Native people                                                                    
should not  have to  give up  their identity  or personhood.                                                                    
She believed  the legislature had a  responsibility to serve                                                                    
the people.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:38:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson thanked Ms. Hugo for her teaching.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule stated  that he  had the  privilege of                                                                    
visiting Ms.  Hugo's class in  Barrow and was amazed  at her                                                                    
achievements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MARSH  HOTCH, TLINGIT  SPEAKER, voiced  her support  for the                                                                    
bill.  She began  in her  native language  and revealed  she                                                                    
teaches her language. She thanked  the sponsors of the bill.                                                                    
Ms. Hotch  learned her  language while  being raised  by her                                                                    
grandparents, but related  that when she went  to school her                                                                    
parents  were told  they  could only  speak  English in  the                                                                    
home. Her  parents wanted the  best for their  daughter, but                                                                    
her parents  did not speak  English very well and  the house                                                                    
became silent.  Her grandmother  wondered what  would happen                                                                    
to her granddaughter's grandchildren  when they did not know                                                                    
who they were.  She stressed the importance  of young people                                                                    
learning their  language and  related a  story of  one young                                                                    
man and  the difference  in his  behavior and  demeanor when                                                                    
speaking  his language  and knowing  his culture.  She wants                                                                    
the language  preserved and  placed inside  the soul  of the                                                                    
young.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:49:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze handed the gavel to Co-Chair Thomas.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:50:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBY  LITTLEFIELD, TLINGIT  TEACHER, SITKA  SCHOOL DISTRICT,                                                                    
testified  first  in  the   Tlingit  language.  She  learned                                                                    
Tlingit from her father-in-law  after her marriage. Sealaska                                                                    
Heritage has  provided teaching classes for  fluent speakers                                                                    
and their  apprentices. She expressed strong  feelings about                                                                    
what needs  to be done  to keep native languages  alive. She                                                                    
pointed out that documenting and  preserving the language is                                                                    
not enough  to keep  it alive.  She talked  of the  need for                                                                    
cultural   and   academic   language   standards.   Cultural                                                                    
awareness is for  all people in Alaska, not  just the Alaska                                                                    
Native,  but  she acknowledged  it  is  hard to  do  without                                                                    
support. The  Alaska Native Heritage Curriculum  needs to be                                                                    
taught in the  schools and valued in the state.  It helps to                                                                    
make the state  special. She reminded that time  is short as                                                                    
native language speaking elders are rapidly passing away.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:58:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRISANN JUSTICE, INUPIAQ  EDUCATION DEPARTMENT, North Slope                                                                    
SCHOOL DISTRICT, supported the  bill. She indicated that she                                                                    
works with  the Inupiaq  teachers to develop  materials that                                                                    
are  used  in  their  classes to  teach  the  language.  She                                                                    
divulged and  that she  was raised  bi-lingual, bi-cultural,                                                                    
not in Alaska, and that  experience helps her understand the                                                                    
importance   of  languages   in   helping  people   identify                                                                    
themselves.  She declared  how shocked  she is  when meeting                                                                    
educated people who do not  understand the importance of the                                                                    
revitalization of native languages.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:00:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EDWARD HOTCH,  PARENT, supported  the bill.  He acknowledged                                                                    
the bill  is not a cure-all,  but does provide a  foot hold.                                                                    
After years of being told  they could not speak their native                                                                    
language  in  school, the  move  will  allow it  come  back.                                                                    
Elders are being  lost daily; there has been a  loss of half                                                                    
the  Tlingit speakers  over the  past year.  He discussed  a                                                                    
previous big  push to have  English-only in  public schools,                                                                    
but it  is important for  children to learn where  they come                                                                    
from and to know their  own language. He discussed Elizabeth                                                                    
Peratrovich Day and related a  story regarding a teacher who                                                                    
said celebrating that  day was a waste of her  time and tore                                                                    
up  the news  flyer announcing  the day.  He explained  that                                                                    
everything  Elizabeth Peratrovich  had fought  for was  torn                                                                    
away by  the teacher's  words. The bill  is not  a cure-all,                                                                    
but would  provide Alaska  Natives with  a step  forward. He                                                                    
believed it was important to  understand that the bill would                                                                    
not just help Alaska Natives,  but would also help Alaska as                                                                    
a state. He worked with  Goldbelt Heritage to get the native                                                                    
languages taught  in the schools,  but the message  was sent                                                                    
that native language teaching was  neither worth the time or                                                                    
effort. He thanked the committee for its support.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:05:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas related a personal story about his name.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PAUL  MARKS,  GOLDBELT   CORPORATION,  JUNEAU,  thanked  the                                                                    
committee and  spoke in  Tlingit. He  told a  personal story                                                                    
about growing  up with Tlingit  spoken in the home.  When he                                                                    
started school,  he became confused by  the western foreign-                                                                    
thinking system.  He thinks in  Tlingit. Most of  the people                                                                    
he  named in  his story  were  no longer  living. His  older                                                                    
sister published a book that  told a story about their lives                                                                    
as children. His sister was hidden  in the bow of the family                                                                    
boat when  she was  little to  prevent the  federal marshals                                                                    
from  taking her  away to  learn the  English language.  The                                                                    
bill would help  the Alaska Native regain  their dignity and                                                                    
it  would be  a big  feather in  the hats  of the  committee                                                                    
members to help Alaska Natives with its support.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:12:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Marks  continued to discuss  the merits of  learning and                                                                    
understanding  the Tlingit  language. He  restated that  the                                                                    
bill would help Natives regain  their dignity and help their                                                                    
children be  proud. He stressed  that Alaska  Natives needed                                                                    
their language back and urged the support of the committee.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:13:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NANCY  DOUGLAS, SITKA,  grew up  with a  Tlingit mother  who                                                                    
spoke  the  language.  She  stated   that  she  has  created                                                                    
opportunities to  learn the language working  with elders in                                                                    
Sitka and told stories of  her experiences to learn. She had                                                                    
an opportunity  to be  a student learning  to be  a teacher.                                                                    
She  was asked  to  create  a program  to  teach the  Alaska                                                                    
Native culture  and language in the  Juneau school district.                                                                    
The elders  want the voices  of their ancestors to  be heard                                                                    
across the land.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara talked about  the English-only law. When                                                                    
he  first arrived  in Alaska,  he felt  the need  to respect                                                                    
those who  were here thousands  of years before him  so when                                                                    
the  English-only  law passed,  he  worked  with the  Native                                                                    
American  Rights Fund  to challenge  that law.  Part of  law                                                                    
said that  the native  language could  not be  spoken during                                                                    
traditional village  meetings. That was offensive  to him. A                                                                    
bill like  HB 254 cannot  make up  for what has  happened in                                                                    
the past,  but it helps  to turn  the curve and  gain ground                                                                    
from what has been lost in the past.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:18:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas commented on a personal story.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JERRY AHWINONA,  NOME, ALASKA, DISTRICT  CHAIRMAN REPUBLICAN                                                                    
PARTY   (via  teleconference),   supported   the  bill.   He                                                                    
commented that  he was raised speaking  his native language,                                                                    
but in elementary school he  was forced to learn English. He                                                                    
studied  the  encyclopedia  to learn  the  English  language                                                                    
forgetting most of his own  culture and language. He learned                                                                    
what words meant in English.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:22:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARK  HANS  CHESTER,  SECOND  GRADE  TEACHER,  JSD  SEALASKA                                                                    
HERITAGE,  grew  up  learning  English.  He  did  not  start                                                                    
studying Tlingit until he went  to college. He expressed the                                                                    
importance of  the bill  in the  eyes of  the elders.  It is                                                                    
just as  important for his generation  and those generations                                                                    
to  come. The  bill might  allow native  speakers throughout                                                                    
the  state to  collaborate together.  Each language  is very                                                                    
different from  the other  and new  ideas might  be inspired                                                                    
from  each other.  There were  four to  five hundred  native                                                                    
speakers when he started to  learn the language, now sixteen                                                                    
years later,  there are less  than one hundred.  He believed                                                                    
that anything  the state can do  to put back what  was taken                                                                    
away will help.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze   talked  about  the  native   village  of                                                                    
Eukultna  in his  district and  the  industrial school  that                                                                    
once was there.  He declared how pleased he was  to have the                                                                    
opportunity to help  rectify the past and step  in the right                                                                    
direction.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule interjected  that the  word to  use is                                                                    
"healing."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze thanked all that participated.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HB  254  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:29:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:29 PM.                                                                                           

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 304 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 304
HB 304 Letters of Support.pdf HFIN 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 304
HB 304 Backup.pdf HFIN 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 304
HB 254 Support Letter North Slope Borough School District.pdf HFIN 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 254
HB 254 Support Letter First Alaskans Institute.pdf HFIN 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 254
HB 254 Support Letter Byron Mallot Sealaska.pdf HFIN 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 254
HB 254 Sponsor Statement AK Native Language Councilpdf.pdf HFIN 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 254
HB 254 Dr. Rosita Worl Testimony Native Language Revitalization.pdf HFIN 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 254
CS HB 254(STA) Sectional Analysispdf.pdf HFIN 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 254
HB254-NEW FN-DCCED-DCRA-02-24-12.pdf HFIN 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 254
HB 254 Written Testimony - AE Smith 2 16 12.pdf HFIN 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 254